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UKRAINE: DRONE ESCALATION. ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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UKRAINE: DRONE ESCALATION. ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY
DECMBER 1961

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.6

Ukraine conflict, a momentous week.

0:15.3

I welcome Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, the Eurasia Project, we're looking right now

0:23.2

at after Donald Trump's remarks, after the phone call between President of the United States

0:29.8

and the President of Russia, after the drone attacks, waves of them into Kiev and burning

0:36.2

buildings, after the counter by Ukraine, waves of them into Kiev and burning buildings. After the counter by Ukraine, waves of

0:40.8

drones not only against Moscow's factories, but all factories, as far as I could tell, across

0:47.0

the region, a vast attack. And promising more, we have this headline from Berlin. You will recall that Berlin and Moscow have history.

0:57.4

German Chancellor promises to help Ukraine produce long-range weapons.

1:01.3

This is BBC.

1:03.1

We want to talk about production, and we will not publicly discuss details, said Friedrich Merritt,

1:09.1

when asked by reporters in Berlin, if Germany would supply

1:12.7

Keefe with its tourist missiles, Merz took office earlier this month. You bet he did. This is the new

1:18.1

chancellor. This is not all of Schultz. However, Anatole, a very good evening to you. Thank you for

1:23.6

this. The remarks by Merits are regarded as hawkish in Germany. Do you regard them as

1:28.9

hawkish? Is this a surprising change of direction for Germany? Good evening to you.

1:36.3

Evening, John. No, I wouldn't say it's a change of direction. It's an intensification of, you know,

1:41.7

a process which has been going on in stages since the Russian invasion of, you know, a process which has been going on in stages since the Russian

1:44.6

invasion of, you know, increasing German supplies to Ukraine. I mean, I think that there are two

1:53.1

interesting things, one good and one not so good about this. One is that clearly the Germans are now thinking of how to strengthen Ukraine's

2:05.1

own military production in the long run. In other words, after a ceasefire or peace settlement

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