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Slack.com slash THQ. This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Batch

with Professor H.J. Mackender, generously commenting on five capitals, five points of view

at the beginning of a new calendar year. The auguries are negative. We have escalation

in Moscow, the Professor points to escalatory points in Keef. Brussels already part of

the escalation with its provision of from the French and from the Germans and also about

safe from the Poles and from the Finns. They're called light tanks. They're armored vehicles.

However, there's talk of the German leopard too, also flowing from Finland or Poland.

The American M1 Abrams, not on the battlefield. The question here, Professor, is NATO escalating

does the US want NATO to escalate? Does this suit the purposes of the larger war, which

is that your recognizes this is a war for its survival, not Ukraine?

Well, escalation is not something that people do or that people want. Escalation is the

result of an interactive process. If I punch you, you punch me back. Unless we quickly say

my God, what are we doing? We're going to stop. We've all seen Western movies in which

everybody's, they've all got their pay or they've got their gold dust and they're all

Saturday night in the saloon and it's kind of a tense quiet. Then suddenly there's

a noise in the corner and next thing you know, people are being punched and then chairs

are being pulled up and then the camera gradually pans away and you see that the whole place

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