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This is the Friends of Institute of Aiding Society. I'm John Bachelworth, Professor H.J.

Mackinder, International Relations, six capital, six points in view. We go to Brussels, a

twin capital, NATO and the EU. And we have this from the meetings in these last hours,

President Zelensky attending. European nations have signaled their readiness to the telegram

to send fighter jets to Ukraine. According to President Zelensky, after an impassioned plea

to EU leaders to ramp up their military support, after meeting with the leaders for the

blocs 27 member states, Zelensky said he had received positive signals. It came after

Mr. Zelensky warned them that Ukraine's armed forces desperately need them to make good

on their promised weapons. But a number of European leaders raised doubts over the supply

of aircraft amid fears at risk escalation with Moscow. Professor, are we escalating now

or is that a fear of the future? Thank you.

Well, we've escalation is what's been going on from the very, very beginning of the war.

And escalation is an interactive process. And it results when the force with which you

respond is it differs from the force with which you're hit. So it's not like Newton where

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