Welcome to Unfuck Your Brain. The only podcast that teaches you how to use psychology, feminism

and coaching to rewire your brain and get what you want in life. And now here's your

host, Harvard Law School grad, feminist rock star, and master coach, Carla Lohanthile.

So my chickens, I have two of our, as you can see, repeat offenders, but they're not offenders.

Repeat favorites on the podcast today. So it's no secret that I have what people would

generally probably call progressive or leftist, which are not the same thing, but you could

categorize my politics in a lot of different ways anywhere from mainstream progressive

to radical leftists somewhere in between depending on your definitions. But that kind

of political beliefs that is not a prerequisite, obviously for thought work, because the whole

point of thought work is we don't have objective claims to truth. And thought prerequisite

for using this work even the way that I teach it. And so today I really wanted to have

this conversation with two of my students who grew up with or currently identify as more

politically conservative than I am, who nevertheless went through the advanced certification

and feminist coaching. And to talk about their experiences, both with sort of the evolution

of their thoughts and beliefs and feminism in general, and also their experience kind

of bringing those belief systems or histories of being raised to think a certain way into

conversation with the advanced feminist work that I teach this kind of social justice lens

on thought work, all of these things. So I think it's a fascinating conversation whether

you are someone who is more politically conservative yourself or has a loved one who's more politically

conservative that you try to talk to about these things or just want to hear more and think

about the different ways that this work kind of echoes or resonates across different

points on the political spectrum. So we are going to get into that with Judith and

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