Hello everyone and welcome to police off the cuff, real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD sergeant, Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

We got a case going out of Oklahoma, and these two women,

Veronica Butler and Gillian Kelly,

are missing under extremely suspicious circumstances.

And Kansas moms, that's what they're being called,

missing in Oklahoma since March 30th, 24. And the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

said Wednesday that based on information from the victim's vehicle, there's evidence of foul play.

And that's the first time we're really hearing much investigative information coming out of the police in Oklahoma,

the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation,

they're keeping this extremely tight-lipped.

And in a case like this, I have a little bit of a problem with that

because I think in missing person cases,

you really need to use the media and you really need to use the community

to help you, help the police try to solve this case. So we're going to do a dive into this

very shortly. But first, folks, hang on to your hats, hang on to your seats. You're about to

enter true crime from a police perspective. You're about to enter true crime from a police perspective.

You're about to enter the off-the-cuff zone.

The police off-the-cuff zone.

The police off-the-cuff-zone. There has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir, and they have the car stopped in the tent of the ranch, Michael Byer.

We still don't know who called the trigger. You guys all know I let the cat out of the bag because I had them on the screen before.

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