Welcome to Therapist Uncensored, a podcast where therapists freely speak their minds about real life matters.

Welcome back to Therapist Unsensored. This is a podcast where we bridge the

relational sciences and all that really cool research and theory and

experience that is often embedded in textbooks or in people's heads or in

you know a few clinicians offices with the world with people who can use the

research and use the science and really use it to improve daily life. So in that vein,

Anne and I will be digging down more in emotional regulation because it's

really the bottom line, it's kind of what a lot of things boil down to.

So you'll hear about that. But before we get started, we want to tell you about two things.

There's a live conference that's coming up in a while. It'll be April 7th here in Austin, Texas. If you're around and want to come for it, that would be awesome. We would love to meet you.

So it's going to be fun. That's with David Elliot and he's the co-author of attachment disturbances in adults.

And in addition, we have a reading group that's leading up to that conference that is an online

event, so that's going to be open to everybody, including people that aren't coming to Austin, Texas.

So that's exciting and if you'll go to Eventbright.com and just search for Therapistuncensored or just go to our website and you'll be able to find it.

So those are two

opportunities and now let's get right to today's podcast. Hey welcome back. I'm

Anne Kelly and I am Sue Marriott and we are therapist uncensored and we know that there are lots of folks that listen to us that are really interested in attachment and the science of relationships. That's what we're about.

And you know, we've been doing some other things,

you know, peppering things in with interviews,

with musicians, and talking about kind of real world

application of these ideas.

But today we're going to get back down to the basics and to the meat and

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