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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

TU139: Boys and Sex, Modern Young Men and Sexuality with Peggy Orenstein

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2020

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Dive into hook up culture, locker room talk, and the modern shifts in youth sexual behavior and health.  Peggy Orenstein unpacks her new book “Boys and Sex” with co-host Ann Kelley. In this peak behind the curtain of the experience of young male sexuality, we’ll see how boys struggle with the conflicting needs of the conquest narrative of sex and their own internal understanding of pleasure and vulnerability. Her book was written about both cis and trans men, and covers the whole spectrum of sexual orientations, backgrounds, and experiences.

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both the boys and the girls were defining female satisfaction

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completely incorrectly you know a and the girls were doing it too because they were

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going back and saying they were going back and saying you know oh I had an orgasm or you know whatever they was going back and saying, you know, oh, I had an orgasm or, you know, whatever.

0:13.4

They were going back and saying, he lasted, you know, however long and he had a big dick,

0:17.4

you know, that that's not going to work. But also that it was really clear in the girl book that hookup culture was not serving girls very well for the most part.

0:26.8

I mean, there were things that they liked about it, but mostly it was teaching them what they didn't want.

0:31.0

And they had a lot of anger and a lot of betrayal about that, but what

0:35.3

was interesting about the boys was that it wasn't serving them very well either. And they

0:39.4

didn't speak in terms of anger and betrayal so much, but they did speak in terms of anger and betrayal so much but they did speak in terms of

0:44.1

disconnection and you know as one guy said to me it's like two people having very

0:48.8

distinct experiences you know there's not a lot of eye contact there's a lot of not a lot of

0:53.4

communication it's like you're acting vulnerable without being vulnerable with

0:57.7

somebody that you don't know or care about very much and he said that's you know

1:02.4

just kind of odd and not really very fun.

1:07.0

Therapist uncensored brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy,

1:12.0

relational neuroscience, modern attachment, and anything else

1:15.2

they think will be helpful in healing humans.

1:17.4

Now, hear your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly, and Sue Marriott. Hey everyone, welcome to our first episode of the New Year.

1:31.6

I know Sue and I are really ready to usher in 2021 and we

1:37.4

imagine that's a pretty common sentiment for most of our listeners across the

1:41.7

world. It was a tough one and of course it still is.

1:45.6

But we are ready for the new year and ready to continue to take deep dives on so many topics.

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