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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

TU135: Holding Your Own Session 3 – Covert Narcissism (3rd in a Series)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

When does self-consciousness and self-reflection cross the line into self-preoccupation? Covert narcissism is also called thin-skinned, vulnerale, depressed or closet narcissism. It's a real thing but unlike grandiosity, it's quite hard to spot!  Think about it - if you feel when you walk in a room everyone is looking at you - admiringly or judgmentally, either way - that is a narcissistic fantasy. Today's episode follows the other side of grandiosity. Find more here www.therapistuncensored.com/episodes

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0:00.0

I think that's one reason why we have seen many people experience, not all researchers, but a lot of people experiencing an increase in narcissism in our culture.

0:10.0

If you think about it right now, the emphasis on achievement is really important because what does

0:13.8

achievement mean? Achievement is ostensibly kind of outward manifestation of your accomplishments.

0:21.0

And you're talking about like an art piece. Are you doing it to be the

0:23.5

most perfect artist? Are you creating a sense of an internal expression that is

0:29.7

creative and that you feel compelled to share.

0:32.7

They're really different motivations.

0:34.1

This is holding your own,

0:42.1

a series from Therapist Unsensor that aims to deepen and broaden security when faced with challenging personalities.

0:48.0

Now, here are your co-host, Dr. Ann Kelly and Sue Marriott. series of holding your own. And we are doing a series on building and holding your own

1:05.8

security while in relationships with difficult types of personality traits.

1:10.3

And today we are going to be talking about an element of narcissism.

1:17.0

So we started talking about what messy security looks like, like what's healthy but looks pretty ugly and then last time we talked

1:25.8

about one of the kinds of narcissism which is grandiose narcissism so you can

1:30.6

review either of those if you'd like to if you've missed them.

1:33.0

Well, just to note, the grandiose narcissism, if you haven't had a chance to hear it,

1:36.8

that's what you are more typically familiar with in the media.

1:40.4

That's somebody who tends to hold their defenses in a more arrogant

1:44.4

entitled way. Now those are easy to spot. What's much more difficult to spot

1:50.0

is the other side of the coin from grandiose narcissism. It's called so many different things,

1:55.4

depressed narcissism, covert narcissism, vulnerable narcissism.

2:00.9

Even hyper-vigilant narcissism, I've seen that. And I'll say, you know, it's easy to

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