Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Radical Cander Podcast. I'm Kim Scott, co-founder of

Radical Cander, an author of Radical Cander and Radical Respect. I'm Amy Sandler, your host for

the Radical Cander Podcast, and we are so thrilled to kick off our first radically candid conversation of

24 with Stephen M.R. Covey.

Stephen is the global leader for the Franklin Covey global trust practice and the content

expert for Franklin Covey's leading at the speed of trust and working at the speed of trust

courses. Under Stephen's direction, Covey Leadership Center has become the largest leadership

development company in the world. Wow. The best-selling author, Stephen, is of trust and

inspire how truly great leaders unleash greatness in others, as well as the

speed of trust, the one thing that changes everything. Stephen is also a globally sought after

speaker, advisor on trust, leadership, ethics, and collaboration. So we are just so thrilled

to have you join us today. Stephen, welcome.

Thank you, Amy. What a delight and an honor for me to join you and Kim had this conversation today.

So thank you so much.

Well, thank you for being with us. Here is, here's my hope. It's not really a New Year's resolution, but, but because I'm imposing it on the whole world. So it's a hope. It's not really a New Year's resolution, but because I'm imposing it on the whole world.

So it's a hope, not a resolution. I hope that everyone on the planet finally understands this year that command and control just doesn't work that well.

I love it. Yeah. Yeah, I think we really need to learn how to collaborate with each other and to stop trying to dominate one another.

And I think your book is an important part of that.

So I'm thrilled to speak with you about it.

Well, thank you.

I love the, I love the hope and agree with it.

And at one level, it sounds so obvious and simple and and yet, and yet we're entrenched deeply still

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