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Trump vs Iran: deal or war?

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Politics, Daily News, News

41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

As news unexpectedly emerged that the US and Iran are to hold talks in Oman this weekend, President Trump warned Tehran that it must either cut a deal to cease all nuclear weapons development, or face the very real threat of military strikes. But just as the Trump Administration is divided on whether or not to attack, so Iranian society is split between those who fear war and those who support removal of the regime at any cost.


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Guest: Sanam Vakil, Director of Middle East and North Africa programme, Chatham House and Holly Dagres, Senior Fellow at the Washington Institute. 

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producer: Edith Rousselot.

Further reading: Iran has every incentive to make a nuclear deal with Trump

Clips: Sky News, Fox News, TikTok, Al Jazeera, Straight Arrow News, Reuters.

Photo: Getty Images.

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

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0:13.0

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0:20.0

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0:44.5

From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story.

0:46.2

I'm Manvien Rana.

0:58.3

Amid the global meltdown over tariffs and the chaos of a trade war,

1:03.7

it would be easy to miss the rumblings of an actual war gathering pace.

1:10.5

U.S. President Donald Trump says that he'll bomb Iran if it weren't a great deal on its nuclear program. Iran's vowed to strike back, describing Trump's warnings as an affront to international peace and security.

1:17.6

A letter from US President Donald Trump to Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah al-Kamani had in effect two sides.

1:26.6

One, offering a possible window of engagement, the other a menu of threats.

1:33.1

Tensions between the U.S. and Iran are growing as the Islamic Revolutionary Guard is now on high

1:39.2

alert amid an increasing American military presence in the Middle East. Iran says it's preparing its army as President Trump

1:46.6

warns of potential U.S. military action

1:49.2

unless Tehran comes to an agreement over its nuclear program.

1:55.2

Over the past week, satellite images have shown the build-up of American forces,

2:04.6

aircraft carriers and stealth bombers in the Indian Ocean, poised for a military strike on Iran.

2:08.6

Could there be a war?

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