Welcome to the Oath and the Office podcast. I'm John Fugles-Sang. You know, Donald Trump just said over 300 million people died from drugs last year, and I still can't get a cab.

What I can do is introduce you to the star of our show, Professor Corey Brechtnider, author

of The Oath in the Office, a Guide to the Constitution for Future Presidents, and the, of course,

the more recent book, The Presidents and the People.

Corey, it's been quite a week. Let's just dive right into it.

How are you, sir? I'm good. You know, we're facing an increased threat to democracy,

one that we've talked about since the beginning of this show, but that's getting more and more

intense in the aftermath of the awful murder of Charlie Kirk. And I know we're going to talk about it, not just the

attack on Kirk, but on the aftermath and the continued threat to democracy. I do want to just

add a positive note, John, and say, I've heard such great things about our interview yesterday.

Separation of Church and Hate is, of course, in the top hundred of all books

being sold on Amazon, which is an incredible thing. And I also want to give a shout out from my dad,

who I had a really extensive conversation, not just about the interview, but he read the book

and was talking about the details of it and what he learned and how much it was both a new perspective, but one that he really has gained from. And he's

giving it to all his friends. And so my dad, Eric, a longtime civil servant in New York, just

wants to send you that shout out. Oh, well, please, please thank your dad for me. I'm really honored.

He raised quite a great scholar who I've learned a lot from.

So if my jokes about scripture and Christian nationalism were entertaining or enlightening

for him, I'm so grateful.

Please convey my gratitude.

It was a very strange week, Corey, for me to release a book about how to take down

Christian nationalism nonviolently with scripture and humor to then see one of the most

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