Hello, everybody. Welcome to the East Summer Colley podcast. I am joined by my friend and regular colleague and contributor Malcolm Foley. Thank you for coming on the podcast, Malcolm.

Happy to be here. And we're also here joined by producer Mike. Now, Mike, I say a couple of things. Yeah. Some people on the internet weren't happy with me because they said that I was using your kid. Your kid got baptized last week. Yeah. Uh-huh. To like sell books. I mean, you did. And I want to say, I'm sorry for using your kid's baptism to try to sell my new book, Isaiah Johnson, the big game that is available wherever you buy books. I want to say I'm sorry about doing that. So right now you're using your apology. No, I want to sell. To show the truth this in my apology, I'm going to give you this book for real that I just mentioned for your kid. Yeah. Wow. Okay, man. And if you report back to about what they thought about it next week, and get three weeks of content out of this. Would you like me to also report on Amazon reviews as well? If you want to put it on Amazon, you can. Here's the thing, though. Yeah, yeah. I was saying I was doing something with a podcast or an event in England. I was not in England. I was just online in England. And I was being once again invited to give my, like, thoughts as a scholar and a public intellectual. Yeah. You know the first question I got asked? What was the first question? Where is Mike? I feel like, is this a second time? It's the second time. I got fans in England. And people are asked, someone asked me to pass this along to Mike. And you know, I'm not passing it along. Like, they're asking questions. I'm not you able to go between for your England hive. Actually, you are to your contract. Wow. Can I also just say, because I don't think this made it on the air yet, we had an Atlanta event a few weeks ago. And I had a lot of people there come up to me tell me how much they love our podcast. Our podcast. Our podcast. And then also said, but you tell Esau that he needs to be nicer to you. You said this on six different different episodes. You can't say it like it hasn't got the podcast.

I think I only said it once and it got cut.

So I want to make sure.

Okay.

Shout out to my new Atlanta best friends.

And your England hive?

And my England hive.

Okay, man.

I didn't know.

I didn't know what's working like that.

Malcolm, everybody knows.

I don't know. Have you all had graduation yet, Malcolm? We're having it this weekend. So I have a son who's about to graduate in a couple of weeks. Yeah. He's graduating high school. They were actually, they did the senior thing. They had like a senior chapel. Okay. Where there's a picture of like them as a baby. And then as an adult. Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you, Malcolm. I was fighting back that single thug tear. I was feeling the feelings. And they were playing like the slow sad music coach. I was like, what are you doing? And so it made me think, because this is graduation season. Yeah. Is there any advice that we would give to young graduates? And so I want to give each one

you a chance that people who are listening here who are either going to be graduating or they

have a kid who's graduates. We don't count here at the East Home of Macaulay podcast graduating

from like fifth grade to middle school. You got to be getting a real degree. Yeah, real. High school

or college, right? So, what are your advice? For high schoolers, I would say if you're going off to college, don't come home until fall break at the earliest. Okay. I think that too often students, they get a little homesick, but it's the weekends is when you make friendships and community, and that's an important part of college. So I think you got to go, commit, don't go home until fall break. For college grads, this is what I tell recent college grads. Aim for good, not perfect. Okay, good, not perfect. That young people can be a little idealistic at times in both career thoughts and community and all sorts of stuff. And you're going to, like, it's hard to make friends right out of college. It's hard to find a good job right out of college. You're just

looking for things that are a step in the right direction. That's good. That will hopefully

lead the better things down the road. Oh, okay. That's nice. What do you have for Malcolm?

So I'm going to start with capitalism. So, you know, because it's on brand. So,

so one of the primary ways that, one of the primary ways that capitalism disciplines you is through

fear. Okay. And so, and so when I, I especially think about, think about college graduates,

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