Gutting the Voting Rights Act and Why Results Matter as Much as Intent
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
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🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
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https://esaumccaulley.com/books/isaiah-johnson-and-the-big-game/
The Supreme Court's latest Voting Rights Act decision has reignited an old debate: does discrimination only matter when racist intent can be proven, or do the results matter too? Esau McCaulley, Skye Jethani and Producer Mike break down the history behind the Voting Rights Act, why this Louisiana redistricting case matters, and what it could mean for Black political representation across the South. They also wrestle with whether America's institutions are actually progressing on race or simply finding new ways to protect power.
Then, Sharon Hodde Miller joins the show to unpack the Newsboys lawsuit and the uncomfortable questions it raises about Christian music, nonprofit partnerships, and money in evangelical culture.
0:00 - Theme Song
0:33 - Esau's New Book!
2:00 - Voting Rights Act Supreme Court Decision
8:47 - Moral Progress and Original Sin
23:09 - Newsboys Suing Charities
40:38 - Downsizing Friendships?
53:42 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast. |
| 0:08.8 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:10.1 | Here we're joined at least for the first 15 minutes of the podcast by a fellow Holy Post coworker, Sky. |
| 0:16.6 | Welcome, Sky. |
| 0:17.3 | Thank you, Esau. |
| 0:18.1 | I'm happy to be here. |
| 0:18.7 | This is like your second time on the podcast, right? |
| 0:20.8 | Is it? Okay, then. And we're here also joined with, like, Sky. Thank you, Esau. I'm happy to be here. This is like your second time on the podcast, right? Is it? Okay, then. And we're here also joined with, like, producer Mike. Yeah, that's me. Even though you got to, you're raising everything, we're calling you producer Mike. Yeah, I think it rolls off a ton better. And something big happened to you over the weekend, at least to one of your kids. What was it? My oldest son got baptized. He did. He did. So we were very excited. Did he ask for anything for maybe as a baptismal person that you think might be good? |
| 0:40.9 | You know, he was saying that he would just love if there was a new kid's book written by an African American author, preferably about baseball. I cannot believe you're using the sacrament of the church. What do you mean? It's a log roll. What are you talking about? |
| 0:54.9 | What are you mean? No, he just said, I would just love if there was a kid's book about baseball, |
| 1:00.5 | preferably written by a black Anglican priest. That's what I mean. That's what the kid asked for. |
| 1:05.5 | If anybody would like to pay to sponsor my children's baptisms? |
| 1:15.3 | Interestingly enough, there's a new book that I wrote that actually might fit that bill. |
| 1:15.8 | Really? |
| 1:19.0 | We're going to be so much trouble. |
| 1:22.5 | It's called Isaiah Johnson in the big game. |
| 1:24.0 | And actually, here's the thing, though. |
| 1:25.2 | It does sent me. |
| 1:26.3 | This will help you as a parent. The story of a father who makes a mistake and has to ask their child for forgiveness. Oh, wow. Do your kids play any sports? Yeah, they've done the soccer or basketball. Have you ever, like, missed the game because you're outparent, doing something else? I think I missed something for Holy Post before. Yeah. And then the kid was heartbroken, right? |
| 1:44.5 | Yeah, exactly. |
| 1:45.5 | Now you're getting a part of the plot. |
| 1:46.5 | So you can read that to your kid or maybe anybody in the audience created to their kid. Issa, where should they buy this book? Anywhere they buy books. I have no idea. Just wherever you go. See if you can find it. Now, we're not just going to sell my books, actually, today. |
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