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The Brian Lehrer Show

Trump's Effort to Ban State AI Laws

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Tina Nguyen, senior reporter for The Verge and author of the Regulator newsletter, discusses Trump's latest efforts to stop states from regulating AI.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Laird Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Coming up later this hour,

0:17.4

your stories and feelings about self-checkout. You know, there's an article in

0:21.4

the Atlantic that asks why some people use it even when the line for human cashiers is shorter.

0:27.7

We'll talk to the author of that article and take your calls. But next up, the emerging strange

0:32.5

bedfellows politics of artificial intelligence. The news hook is an announcement from President Trump on

0:39.0

Monday that he plans to sign an executive order placing a moratorium on all state AI legislation.

0:46.1

He wants only the federal government to make the AI rules of the road. But here's some

0:50.9

confounding context. As Puck News reports today, late last week, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis revealed a citizen bill of rights for artificial intelligence,

1:02.8

which it calls a stocking stuffer list of proposals aimed at protecting consumers from every anxiety-inducing aspect of AI, deep fakes, data collection, chatbots,

1:14.3

engaging with minors in a creepy way, other chatbots, posing as mental health expert,

1:19.9

Chinese AI tools, the fraudulent use of names and likenesses, noisy and grid-straining data

1:27.3

centers, and so on, that from Park News,

1:30.3

and that's a lot, right? A lot of concerns that Democrats and Republicans apparently share,

1:35.8

because contrary to Trump's wishes, all 50 states, all 50 states, plus Puerto Rico,

1:41.8

have either introduced, adopted, or passed some form of AI regulation.

1:46.0

The polls also show that Americans of all generations share AI concerns.

1:51.4

And yet, here's a little text of what the president said at the U.S. Saudi Investment Forum a couple of weeks ago.

1:58.9

Quote, oh, do we have this? We have an audio clip of this.

2:03.3

All right. Sorry about that. Here's Trump himself. We are going to work it so that you'll have a one

2:08.6

approval process, not have to go through 50 states in the United States. You know, you can't go

2:14.1

through 50 states. You have to get one approval.

2:19.9

50 states is a disaster.

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