Trump's Edu Plans, Reform Wars, Future of Teaching

Lost Debate

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News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.6 • 607 Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Ravi sits down with New York Times education reporter and bestselling author Dana Goldstein to unpack the Trump administration’s early moves on education policy. They begin by examining the administration’s immigration agenda, its potential impact on the 700,000+ undocumented school-age children in the U.S., and why there’s still much to learn about how policy changes could be enforced. They then explore the tension between the administration’s stated goals of reducing federal involvement in education and its ambitious plans for a “patriotic curriculum” and increased school oversight. Dana also shares insights into the state of teaching and how burnout, pay disparities, and housing challenges have reshaped the profession. Finally, Ravi and Dana discuss emerging educational trends, including new school choice initiatives and a renewed focus on literacy curricula, how they’re influencing classrooms nationwide, and what they suggest about the future of American education. Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Follow Ravi on Goodreads: www.goodreads.com/ravimgupta --- Follow Ravi at @ravimgupta Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Notes from this episode are available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Follow Ravi on Goodreads: www.goodreads.com/ravimgupta Lost Debate is available on the following platforms: • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ravimgupta • Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw • iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

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0:00.0	Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for political eclectics.
0:03.5	I'm Ravi Gupta.
0:04.5	And today I talk to Dana Goldstein, who is a highly respected longtime reporter on education issues.
0:12.2	She writes on education for The New York Times.
0:14.5	She wrote a wonderful book called The Teacher Wars, A History of America's Most Embattled Profession.
0:21.8	We talk about that book,
0:26.2	which came out a while ago, many years ago back when I was running schools, but we really talk about contemporary education issues, what to expect from the Trump administration, how
0:30.9	immigration enforcement could play out within schools or not, the state of the teaching profession,
0:37.1	the differences between
0:37.9	Democrats and Republicans on education issues and maybe some of the similarities, what different
0:44.0	sides of the political debates on education get right and wrong, whether the so-called education
0:49.7	reformers from the movement I came out of, one or lost on the policies that they care most about.
0:55.8	And then what's next? You know, our vouchers and ESAs going to grow. Is the Trump administration
1:02.0	going to shut down the Department of Education? This and many, many other issues we discuss.
1:07.8	Let's jump right in.
1:12.2	Dana, welcome to the podcast.
1:14.2	Hey, Ravi. Glad to be here.
1:16.3	Well, I think the obvious place to start here is the Trump administration just took office earlier this week.
1:22.9	We're recording on January 24th in the middle of the day.
1:25.9	The sort of, there isn't a lot we know yet on the education front,
1:30.0	but one thing we could say for sure is that there is a lot of anxiety
1:33.5	at the level of schools and families around the something like 700,000 plus
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