Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Political Ecclectics.

In a second, we're going to hear from Eric Wilson, who is a political technologist who drives innovation and digital transformation in campaigns.

He's a veteran of numerous political campaigns, and he led Marco Rubio's digital team during the 2016 campaign for president.

He's the executive director of the Center for Campaign

Innovation and the editor of Campaign Trend.com. He is somebody who just follows the trends and

tries to write, even with his political background and his objective way as possible about what

we can learn from campaigns. And he and I have a good discussion about what changed in this

election and what's going to be enduring in the years ahead. Like how our campaigns are going to look

different. And we also have a spirited debate about the role of traditional media versus

alternative media that I think you're really going to appreciate. But before we get there,

two things, maybe three. One is, I appreciate the

well-wishes about the football game over the weekend. I am not ready to talk about it. It's painful.

Yeah, I mean, I could get on my soapbox about some of the stuff that happened in that game,

but I will not, which leads me to point number two, which is if you feel bad for me about the outcome of that game,

one thing you could do for me is if you have a good reads account or want to create a good reads

account, which is linked to your Amazon, I'm gearing up for my novel release, which you'll hear

more about. But if you want to help out on that front and reviewing it on good reason or even just throwing

five stars on, shoot me a note either at Ravi Mgupta.com. There is a contact piece there.

We also have an email address for this podcast that you could just email directly, which is

Lost Debate at the branchmedia.org. Or you could just DM me on Instagram at Ravi M. Gupta.

That's if you feel bad for me,

and yes, I am taking advantage of that empathy

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