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Music Hello and welcome back to the David Frum show.

I'm David Frum, a staff writer at the Atlantic, and I'm grateful that you would join us again this second week of the program.

This week, my guest will be Ontario Premier

Doug Ford. Now, I should make clear, if anyone doesn't know it, I too am a Canadian and an

Ontario by birth and I still spend a lot of time there. I'm going to be speaking to the Premier

about the sense of shock and dismay that Canadians have felt about Donald Trump's threats,

not only to the trade

arrangement between Canada and the United States, but his demands that Canada be annexed to the

United States. You know, the Trump people, when they're trying to justify the economic policy

that has sent world financial markets into such chaos over the past weeks, try to present this

as some kind of confrontation with China alone.

Because they don't like to admit to Americans that they are waging a trade war against the entire

planet. This is not an anti-China campaign. This is an anti-everybody campaign. And it's a

campaign in which America has almost literally no allies except maybe El Salvador. And the trade war began with attacks on Canada, supposedly and historically, America's

closest neighbor and ally. You would think if you were trying to build an anti-China

coalition, you would start by consolidating the North American heartland, especially the

U.S. Canada relationship,

but that's exactly the opposite of what has happened. I'll be talking to the Premier about that,

how Canadians feel about it, not so much the facts and figures of the relationship enormous as it is, but what it has been like for Canadians to be on the receiving end of threats of

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