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Music Hello, welcome to the third episode of the David Fromm Show. I'm David Fromm, a staff writer at the Atlantic. This week, my guest will be Peter Keisler, former acting attorney general of the United States

under President George W. Bush, former head of the Civil Division at the Department of Justice,

a veteran of the conservative legal community. He had clear clerk for Supreme Court Justice Kennedy

and for Judge Robert Bork. I have known Peter also as a friend for nearly half a century.

He has someone in whom I have enormous confidence, for whom I have great respect.

And I think, as you listen to him today, you will see why, because it was an extraordinary

breadth of interest and depth of knowledge.

I'm so grateful that he joined us.

Our theme will be issues of law and due process of law.

And before I begin my conversation with Peter Keisler, let me offer some introductory thoughts

on this subject.

As we've seen, the Supreme Court of the United States has rebuked the Trump administration

for its contemptuous attitude toward courts and toward the dozens of people it is sent

to a maximum security prison in El Salvador without a hearing,

without even allowing them to challenge that the government has got the right person.

Those detained people have now been in supposedly the custody of El Salvador, in fact,

in the custody of the United States government, because the United States government is paying

millions of dollars to the government of El Salvador to hold these prisoners. They've been there now for five weeks, as I speak, without a hearing,

without any show that the government has got the right person in communicato, and apparently for life.

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