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🗓️ 13 July 2025
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The disastrous Epstein scandal tears the MAGA base apart, and Trump leaves an easter egg that suggests what he’s going to do next. Brian interviews Jamie Raskin about what the Judiciary Committee is going to do to compel the Epstein files; Kara Swisher about Epstein, Elon and the America Party; and attorney Norm Eisen about his big win over Trump in the birthright citizenship case in court.
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0:00.0 | Today we're going to talk about the disastrous Epstein scandal that's tearing the Maga base apart |
0:05.0 | and the Easter egg put forward by Trump that suggests what he's going to do next. |
0:08.9 | And I've got three interviews this week. |
0:10.5 | I speak with Jamie Raskin about what the Judiciary Committee is going to do to compel the Epstein files. |
0:15.1 | Keras Wisher about Epstein, Elon, and the America Party and attorney Norm Eisen about his big win over Trump in the birthright citizenship case in court. |
0:22.6 | I'm Brian Tyler Cohen and you're listening to No Lie. |
0:27.5 | All right, so I'm not even going to lie here. |
0:29.6 | I was a skeptic when the Epstein stuff first started bubbling to the surface. |
0:33.8 | Like, I'm probably the farthest from a conspiracy theory guy that you'll ever find. |
0:38.2 | And, you know, the Epstein stuff always felt very online. |
0:41.7 | And that's coming from me, who is very online. |
0:44.5 | I wasn't convinced about whether or not he killed himself, nor did I think it really mattered. |
0:49.0 | But my interest was piqued when Trump lashed out at the beginning of this past week in his cabinet meeting |
0:54.9 | when he yelled a reporter for talking about Epstein, which I found so weird because half of Trump's |
1:00.2 | cabinet literally built their brands on this exact thing. Bonjino, Patel, Bondi, Haba, |
1:06.6 | not to mention a ton of right-wing influencers. This was their issue. |
1:11.4 | And now all of a sudden Trump doesn't want to talk about it. |
1:14.6 | But then Saturday rolled along. |
1:16.4 | The Epstein thing still hasn't died. |
1:18.8 | Trump posts that he's going to denaturalize Rosie O'Donnell, |
1:22.1 | which is such an obvious distraction effort that I started to think, |
1:26.1 | okay, this guy is very clearly grasping at |
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