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🗓️ 6 July 2025
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The Democrats can take away from one main lesson from passage of the Big Beautiful Bill. Brian interviews Congressman Jamie Raskin about what made the conservative holdouts fold; Pod Save America co-host Tommy Vietor about the consequences for Republicans; and election analyst Kyle Kondik about what the landscape looks like for 2026 and beyond.
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0:00.0 | today we're going to talk about the main message Democrats can take from the passage of Trump's |
0:04.5 | one big beautiful bill, and I've got three interviews. I speak with Congressman Jamie Raskin |
0:08.3 | about what made the conservative holdouts fold, Potsave America co-host Tommy Vitor about the |
0:12.7 | consequences for Republicans, and election analyst Kyle Condick about what the landscape looks like |
0:17.5 | for 2026 and beyond. I'm Brian Tyler Cohen, and you're listening to No |
0:21.2 | Lie. So this whole episode with the Big Beautiful Bill these last few months culminating |
0:28.1 | into this past week has made me think about power, how the Democrats often refuse to wield it, |
0:33.0 | and how the Republicans often refuse to limit their abuse of it. When the Democrats had full |
0:37.5 | control of government in 2021, we had our own BBB, the Build Back Better Act, that we tried to pass |
0:43.3 | with a razor-thin majority. And it had all the big Democratic priorities. It had climate funding, |
0:48.6 | child care, universal preschool, child tax credit, paid family leave, Medicare expansion, |
0:54.0 | ACA subsidies, caps to out-of-pocket |
0:56.1 | health care costs, all paid for by imposing a 5% tax on individual incomes in excess of $10 million, |
1:02.6 | and an additional 3% tax on those over $25 million, along with a 15% minimum corporate tax |
1:08.4 | on businesses with profits in excess of a billion dollars. |
1:12.2 | A grab bag of pie in the sky Democratic priorities. And we ultimately couldn't get Joe Manchin |
1:17.4 | on board and the bill stalled in the Senate and ultimately died. And along with it, Democrats' hopes |
1:22.9 | of ushering through a massive legislative reform. Cut to present day, Republicans introduced their own BBB, |
1:29.1 | the big beautiful bill, and that was the foil to the Democratic BBB. This was a grab bag of |
1:34.7 | Republican priorities. They cut health care for 17 million Americans, food assistance for 3 million |
1:39.4 | Americans, eliminated school meal access for 18 million kids, substantially raised health care premiums for seniors with ACA coverage, sent energy costs soaring, and added nearly $4 trillion to the debt, all to pay for tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, and fund ICE to such a degree that if this was a military, it would be the 16th best-funded military on earth, more than Israel, |
2:02.4 | Italy, and Brazil. Republicans, too, had raised within majorities like the Democrats did in 2021, |
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