‘Trump Brazenly Preyed on Me as Epstein Watched’

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🗓️ 5 August 2025

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Stacey Williams, a Sports Illustrated model who briefly dated Jeffrey Epstein in the early 1990s tells Joanna Coles her story—and her astonishing encounters not just with the pedophile, but through him with Donald Trump. Williams reveals how a much older Epstein made a twisted boast that he had "prized" videos of her naked which she had no idea he had made. And she tells how he took her to Trump's Fifth Avenue office where a "brazen" Trump groped her. Trump's campaign denied her allegation when it was first made. But she tells Coles, "I know there are women who have interacted with them, who haven't come forward, who have anecdotes to share that confirm their behavior and their friendship." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Everything Donald does is hidden in its brazeness. You just do it right out there and everyone goes, well, that can't be happening because it's totally wrong and he's doing it right in front of everyone.
0:12.3	I'm Joanna Cole, chief content officer of The Daily Beast and this is the Daily Beast podcast. I hope you're listening or watching us on YouTube.
0:20.0	And if you are, feel free to share it with all your friends, share it with your contacts, book. And don't forget to leave us a comment. And I know, I know I was misusing the word myopia last week. As in myopic viewers of the Daily Bees podcast, might notice the set behind me has changed. That's because we're about to unleash a whole
0:38.7	new load of podcasts on you. But of course, I was misusing the word myopic. It means near-sightedness.
0:44.8	I was using it to mean keen-eyed observers. My bad. Anyway, our last podcast, we had Michael
0:51.2	Wolf on. And just as we were ending our conversation we learned that
0:54.5	Gillen Maxwell had been moved after a day and a half conversation with Todd Blanche, Donald
0:59.9	Trump's former personal lawyer but now number two at the Justice Department, are you still
1:04.2	following? I think you are. Had been moved from federal jail in Florida to basically a summer
1:10.6	camp in Texas with It's a minimum
1:13.5	security jail. She has a relative in Texas. She's in there with Elizabeth Holmes. The
1:18.5	Pheranos fraudster on Earth can breakfast be like, I just can't imagine, or maybe they get
1:23.7	together in the library and discuss how they were both wrongly convicted.
1:27.8	I would love to hear those conversations.
1:30.5	Anyway, today we're talking to Stacey Williams, who is a model who really was in the
1:36.8	modelling industry in the 90s.
1:38.8	And you will remember that Michael Wolf is often talking about the sort of model era.
1:43.7	It was really peak model in the 90s and how
1:47.1	models had this sort of special control, men were fascinated by them, they were trophy girlfriends.
1:52.6	And Stacey talks about her dating life with Jeffrey Epstein and then the day that he took her
2:00.7	to drop in on Donald Trump,
2:03.4	and what happened, she alleges, when they casually went to Trump Tower. It's a fascinating story,
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