I Saw the Creepy Secrets of Epstein's Lairs: Wolff

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🗓️ 7 August 2025

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Best-selling author Michael Wolff tells Joanna Coles what he saw inside Jeffrey Epstein’s infamous Manhattan townhouse and his lavish Paris apartment. From bizarre sights including a stuffed tiger and a stuffed baby elephant to a horrific fake corpse in the lobby, this is at home with a monster. On the sideboard, Epstein flaunted his easy access to the rich and powerful with pictures with princes—not just Andrew but Mohamed bin Salman—prime ministers and even a pope. Wolff and Coles unpack new pictures uncovered by the New York Times and Wolff’s own unparalleled access to Epstein’s homes and unravel how and why Epstein escaped attention for too long. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I said, you know, wow, this is, this is an incredible place. At which point, he took his knuckle,
0:07.1	he wrapped on the, on the wall. And he said, fake. It's all fake.
0:16.9	I'm Joanna Coles of The Daily Beast. This is the Daily Beast. In a moment, we're going to get into it very deeply with Michael Wolfe talking about what else, but Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump.
0:28.1	But before we do, I'm just reminding you, subscribe please to our YouTube channel and subscribe to the Daily Beast.com for up to-mom information on what's going on. We're independent media,
0:39.9	and we appreciate your support. Now, no time to waste. Let's get into it. Michael Wolf, it's so good
0:49.2	to have you in the studio. It's so much easier to talk to you in the studio. Thank you for coming in.
0:54.3	Well, it's not easier for me since I have to come in. But you do have to come in from your
0:58.8	lovely house in America. I, I, I, I, um, the proximity is, um, uplifting. It is uplifting. It's
1:07.7	very uplifting and so much as always to discuss. And I really wanted to
1:12.2	start with the New York Times' piece on Epstein. We're recording this on Wednesday morning
1:18.8	and it came out on Tuesday morning because I was fascinated, A, that they're really leaning
1:25.2	into this story, which they seem to have had at arm's length for a long time.
1:29.2	But B, it was the first time I can think of where we really got fascinating shots of his interior.
1:36.7	I mean, I didn't find that that story did not advance this story really at all, except that it was a kind of weird story about
1:49.0	interiors could have been on the decorating page. In another world, this would be in the
1:56.0	style section, oh, a rich man's house. Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein invites this into his lovely home.
2:02.1	Right.
2:02.5	And there was the suggestion that there was something macabre about this.
2:07.8	But in fact, if you looked at the pictures, it literally could have been the over-decoration of any billionaire in the city.
2:19.1	Well, by the pictures, you mean not his art, which I want to come back to,
2:23.3	because there was a significant lack of art, I thought, for someone as wealthy as that.
2:27.2	We can talk about the art.
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