Trump 2.0 and US Foreign Policy (Robert Wright & Thomas Friedman)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

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🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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0:00 Tom’s Pulitzer-Prize hat trick 1:03 Why Beijing is relatively calm about Trump’s reelection 9:33 China hawkism in the AI community 15:24 What’s Trump’s logic re Greenland and Panama? 22:44 On Israel-Palestine, is a two-state solution still possible? 31:06 How a stable ceasefire in Gaza could transform Israeli politics 36:17 Why Trump may be better than Biden on Israel-Palestine 43:46 Bob and Tom debate a possible strike on Iran 52:42 Prospects for peace in Ukraine under Trump 55:24 How America is making a Chinese invasion of Taiwan more likely

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Thomas Friedman (The New York Times). Recorded January 21, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast.
0:29.0	Hi, Tom.
0:30.5	Hey, Bob.
0:31.6	Are you doing?
0:32.8	Terrific.
0:34.3	I bet that's an exaggeration, but we'll get to that.
0:37.3	Let me introduce this. I'm Robert Wright,
0:39.8	publisher of the non-zero newsletters, a non-zero podcaster Thomas Friedman, a very well-known author,
0:46.1	foreign affairs columnist from New York Times, winner of not one, not two but three Pulitzer
0:50.6	Prizes. Tom, is that the most Pulitzer prizes anyone's ever won?
0:55.0	And let me tell you, just straight up, if you claim you haven't looked into this,
0:58.6	I'm not going to believe you.
1:01.6	So what is the answer?
1:02.9	As far as I know, the one time I peaked, it is the most, there was a time when in the early days of the Pulitzer's, they gave them to each other on the board.
1:14.9	So I think there may be someone with four, but I'm thrilled.
1:19.4	It doesn't count.
1:20.3	We're not going to count those.
1:21.1	Well, congratulations.
1:22.2	Thank you.
1:24.7	So, listen, as you may have heard, we have a new president and you and I are going to talk about his foreign policy to the extent that we can discern it, what causes there may be for concern, what causes there may be for hope.
1:40.8	I personally don't feel suffused with optimism at the moment about the world.
1:45.3	In fact, it's been a long time since I felt that way, but I feel even less that way since the
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