Hi everyone, welcome to capitalism.com.

I am chatting with my longest standing mentor today.

His name is Travis Sego.

You might have met him because I talk him out of him a lot.

I talk about him in my book.

I've had him on the podcast here several times.

And I have always found peace in my conversations with Travis.

In fact, several times in therapy or doing a personal work, when I need to find a safe

place or a calm place, I think about my chats with Travis.

And I just decided to have one with him and record it. So this is not a fast-paced

podcast interview. This is a coffee chat with my mentor Travis. And the reason I wanted to do this

is because I know a lot of my peers and my colleagues are going through hard times right now.

In fact, it seems like everybody that I know is going through some sort of unique challenge

that is really messing up their life.

And time with Travis seems to put it in perspective for me and for a lot of people.

And I wanted to record an episode with him in the midst of all the chaos that's going

on in the world just to get his perspective on how we can find peace, joy, meaning during

times of chaos.

So this is probably not the podcast for you to listen to when you're in grind mode or

when you are looking

for content. This would be a good conversation to listen to while you're on a walk, while you're

on a long drive, and looking for some peace in the moment. I even found my stress levels coming down

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