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Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

Transforming Perfectionism into Growth: Katherine Morgan Schafler’s Guide

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

LinkedIn

Careers, Business

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

What if everything we’ve been taught about perfectionism is wrong? What if instead of fixing it or overcoming it, you could learn to wield it as a superpower? This week we’re bringing back an insightful episode on the unsung advantages of perfectionism with Katherine Morgan Schafler, a distinguished psychotherapist and author of The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control. Katherine sheds light on how adaptive perfectionism can offer surprisingly valuable benefits, such as deep self-awareness. Katherine sits down with Jessi to share actionable strategies to transform perfectionistic tendencies into pathways for growth, resilience, and self-compassion. Whether you’re dealing with your own perfectionistic behavior or seeking to understand it in others, this conversation provides essential tools and perspectives for navigating the quest for perfection. Tune in to gain practical insights from Katherine Morgan Schafler on leveraging perfectionism for positive change. Subscribe to the Hello Monday newsletter to get episodes and insights delivered straight to your inbox every Monday!

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0:00.0

LinkedIn News. final days of August. I believe this is what we call the dog days of August. And if you

0:16.4

have been doing as much reflection as I have been doing this summer, then this

0:20.0

episode will land at the perfect time.

0:22.7

We are dipping into our archives once again to bring you a conversation with Catherine

0:27.1

Morgan Schaefer.

0:28.8

She read a book a while ago called The Perfectionists guide to losing control.

0:33.7

Here's the thing, Catherine has this really unique take on perfectionism.

0:38.8

I found it really helpful.

0:40.7

She asks, what if the conventional wisdom that it's, I don't know, something to be fixed or overcome?

0:47.0

Well, what if that's just really wrong?

0:50.0

I hope you enjoy this episode. Hey, I'm Michael Kavnat, host of the Next Big Idea Daily.

1:04.0

The show is a master class in better living from some of the smartest writers around.

1:09.0

Every morning, Monday through Friday, we'll serve up a quick 10 minute lesson on how to strengthen your

1:14.0

relationships, supercharge your creativity, boost your productivity, and more.

1:18.6

Follow the next big idea daily wherever you get your podcasts. From the news team at LinkedIn, I'm Jesse Hemple, and this is Hello Monday.

1:31.8

It's our show about the changing nature of work

1:34.8

and how that work is changing us.

1:39.2

I'm a perfectionist.

1:41.1

I know this about myself. I can be exacting to a fault and I come down too strongly when my very high standards aren't met.

1:49.0

And the person I come down on hardest, well it's not Sarah in the production booth, although she may disagree.

1:56.0

It's actually myself, of course.

1:59.0

Like right now, I'm just so annoyed with myself that I didn't send out our newsletter this week.

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