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The Running Public

Training Tuesday: Our Vertical Gain Recommendations

The Running Public

Kirk Dewindt & Brakken Kraker

Running, Sports:running, Health & Fitness, Fitness, Sports

4.9704 Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Last week we discussed why a formula CAN’T accurately tell you how much hill work you should be doing. This week we discuss exactly what you SHOULD be doing in training!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the running public with Brack and Crocker and Kirk DeWint.

0:12.4

It's Tuesday, folks, and you know what that means, Training Tuesday.

0:15.7

We are going to take every rabbit hole, follow tangents, use useless metaphors, get lost in the weeds.

0:22.4

This is Training Tuesday.

0:32.9

When you're ready to take your training or racing to the next level, go to the running public.com.

0:38.5

We have both monthly subscription training plans, $1999 a month, and Bracken and I both offer one-on-one customized coaching.

0:47.3

Again, go to the running public.com and check out our offerings.

0:51.3

You know that 90s sort of, I don't know if you call it hip hop rap song, that push it real

0:55.9

good song? Push it real good. I feel like every time you push the recording link, you kind of like

1:02.0

sit back like, yeah, push it real good. Yep, little salt and pepper's here. Is that salt and pepper?

1:07.4

It's got to be salt and pepper. Sure, it's not in Vogue or something? I would bet my life at

1:12.3

Salt and Pepper. You're probably right. That sounds about right. You're looking at it up now?

1:16.8

yeah because I feel like I gotta know if I'm wrong on that I'm question my whole upbringing yeah salt and pepper salt and pepper salt and pepper there's no R come on do you know salt and pepper

1:20.9

was one of the first cassette tapes I owned? I bought, uh, I bought

1:25.2

three cassette tapes at the garage sale next door when I was like in elementary school,

1:30.8

a middle school, and it was Salton Peppa. Probably had that song on it. Ace of bass.

1:35.4

Ace of bass, yeah. And then a Weird Al-Yankovich cassette tape.

1:40.3

So I owned all of those.

1:45.0

Nice.

1:46.8

Although Weird Al would have been on CD.

1:47.4

Well, I think I'm pretty sure I had it on cassette.

1:51.0

No, I'm saying for me.

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