Train Your Mind Like a Leader: Influence, Persuade, and Stay Calm Under Pressure

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American Negotiation Institute

Self-improvement, Business, Education

4.7 • 751 Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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What if the secret to influencing people, uncovering the truth, and becoming a better leader isn't authority — it's emotional intelligence? In this powerful conversation, Dr. Sabine Charles shares how her career as a fraud investigator and internal auditor taught her an unexpected lesson: people reveal their deepest truths when they feel understood. From interviewing fraud suspects who "spilled the beans" within minutes to helping professionals overcome performance anxiety and pass high-stakes certification exams, Sabine reveals the mindset and emotional intelligence strategies that transformed her approach to leadership. Together, we explore her MEQ (Mindset, Emotional Intelligence, and Leadership Qualities) framework, the surprising connection between hypnotherapy and peak performance, how to adapt communication across cultures, and why understanding people is far more important than being right. Sabine also shares deeply personal stories about resilience, self-awareness, and staying grounded in your values during life's most challenging moments. Whether you're leading a team, navigating difficult conversations, managing workplace relationships, or simply trying to communicate more effectively, this episode offers practical tools for building trust, influencing change, and elevating your leadership from the inside out. In this episode, you'll learn: • How emotional intelligence helps people open up and trust you • Why persuasion starts with understanding, not convincing • Techniques for managing performance anxiety in high-stakes situations • How to give and receive feedback across cultures • The role of self-awareness, reflection, and mindset in effective leadership • Why leadership begins long before you have a title Connect with Dr. Sabine Charles LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabine-charles/ Website: https://www.drsabinecharles.com/ Book: Leadership MeQ — available in English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese Contact ANI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Request A Customized Workshop For Your Company⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kwame Christian on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠negotiateanything.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to buy your copy of Finding Confidence in Conflict: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life!

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0:00.0	There's a lesson that today's guest learned at just five years old from her Haitian grandmother with nothing but a jump rope and a moment of choice.
0:09.0	And that was the first time I realized you should not let people take your voice away from you, your identity or your jump rope, because it's yours.
0:21.6	And that lesson, it became the foundation for everything that she teaches today.
0:26.6	Dr. Sabine Charles is a fraud investigator turned internal auditor, turned executive coach.
0:32.6	She's a hypnotherapist, a TEDx speaker, and the creator of the MeQ leadership framework. Her work sits at the
0:39.4	intersection of emotional intelligence, persuasion, and self-mastery, and she has spent decades
0:45.1	helping people to do one thing get out of their own way. In this conversation, Sabine gets honest
0:51.9	about what it actually takes to change someone's mind, whether you're in a boardroom, a tough conversation, Sabine gets honest about what it actually takes to change someone's mind. Whether
0:55.8	you're in a boardroom, a tough conversation, or a relationship, she explains why understanding
1:01.0	yourself first is the only real starting point. But to be removed from ourselves and look at
1:10.0	ourselves as an external person or an external being,
1:13.6	you start looking at yourself holistically.
1:16.6	That's the first step.
1:18.6	She breaks down why performance anxiety disappears the moment you stop making it all about yourself.
1:25.6	You have to remember it's not all about you.
1:29.3	It's a service.
1:30.4	If you go in thinking you're providing a service to the person in front of you, then your
1:35.3	nervousness disappears.
1:37.6	And she challenges the idea that being authentic gives you a pass to stay exactly as you
1:43.1	are.
1:43.9	This conversation is equal parts practical and deeply personal.
1:48.0	Sabine doesn't just teach this stuff.
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