Touré Roberts Has a REAL Convo on Marriage, Sarah Jakes Roberts, & TD Jakes

The Deep End With Lecrae

Lecrae

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 602 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Two days before this conversation, Sarah Jakes Roberts fractured her neck in three places jumping on a trampoline with her daughter.

Touré Roberts still showed up.

In this episode, Touré sits down with Lecrae hours after learning his wife wouldn't need emergency surgery — still processing the fear, still breaking down twice a day, still on a book tour. What he shares is raw, unfiltered, and completely different from anything you've seen from him on a stage.

They go deep on what it's really like to build a life and a ministry with Sarah, how Bishop Jakes' famous first question changed everything, and what Touré's new book Knowing: The Journey to Certainty in an Uncertain World has to say about finding clarity when everything around you is loud and uncertain.

Plus: the bullet that moved in his chest at 16, why he almost walked away from business to follow God, and the tension between being the man behind a rising force and knowing exactly who you are.
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0:00.0	I wasn't expecting her to look like she looked.
0:02.0	I'm expecting some church girl.
0:03.5	She's the daughter of the bishop.
0:05.0	Yeah.
0:06.0	That girl comes in here with some jeans on, some thigh-high boots in LA.
0:09.0	And I'm like, well, this is peculiar.
0:12.0	What is this age gap?
0:15.0	Is he just trying to get into the Jake's family?
0:18.0	Now, I'm going to be honest with you.
0:20.0	I remember I was going to meet Bishop concerning Sarah.
0:24.8	He's in L.A.
0:26.0	And I was like, hey, Bishop, yeah, I'm Touret.
0:28.3	And he was like, you know you got my daughter's heart in your hands.
0:35.1	He looked like a wild man.
0:37.0	I kill him. I'm hugging him. I'm taking this bitch. But I'll kill him. I want to switch it up a little bit. The circles that I ran in were very critical of Bishop Jakes. And I'm like, why would we not want to go in and redeem the way business is done? I'm going to get in trouble. I'm gonna just say it.
0:54.4	Yeah.
0:55.2	And I love everybody.
0:56.6	You always hear this scripture.
1:00.6	The wealth of the wicked is stirred up for the righteous.
1:02.2	And broke church people.
1:03.3	Be like, yes!
1:07.4	No, if you don't work, nobody's coming to save you.
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