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The Deep End With Lecrae

Tim Ross Has An Unfiltered Conversation With Lecrae

The Deep End With Lecrae

Lecrae

Religion & Spirituality

4.8602 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Tim Ross has been canceled. Accused of being in the Illuminati. Called out online. Lost a business partnership he thought God ordained. Watched a spiritual father go to prison. And somehow, he's the most unbothered man in the room. In this episode, Lecrae sits down with his blood relative and the founder of The Basement podcast for one of the most honest conversations the show has ever had. From surviving sexual abuse in Inglewood to stepping down from a 30-year pastoral career, from processing Robert Morris to writing a book his therapist says is worth two years of counseling — Tim Ross holds nothing back.

Tim's upbringing in Inglewood and how Gen X shaped his entire worldview. The "stripper pastor" controversy explained in his own words. Why he believes Jesus on the cross is the ultimate strip. 30 years of ministry and why he left his congregation. Processing Robert Morris's confession as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. Why visiting a man in prison is not the same as excusing what he did. The B-Side record label, why it ended, and the lesson about money that isn't confirmation from God. His new book and why you won't finish it if you're not ready to face yourself. Why online Christian culture is off-mission. What the critics of the church actually get right.


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0:00.0

We don't make it rain on booty cheeks.

0:02.0

We don't make it rain on strippers.

0:04.0

The only stripper I'm in love with is sheep.

0:08.0

Did you hear the Sam Ross Clint when he compares Jesus to a stripper?

0:12.0

The world hears it and it says this is the type of sermons that this man gives.

0:17.0

That's your pastor? Yeah. Right? He says, n-

0:20.0

That's your pastor? He called Jesus a stripper. That's your pastor? He dropped the f-bump. That's your pastor? Yeah. Right? He says, n-b- That's your pastor? He dropped the F-Pomp. That's your pastor?

0:22.7

Yeah. He dropped the F-bomb. That's your pastor?

0:37.7

There's been a lot of stuff that I've had to take down, stuff that I had to apologize for. But it was my mentor, my wife, and my closest friends that said, you've gone too far. Now, is the language I use at my house appropriate for a pulpit?

0:38.1

No.

0:39.7

Can we keep it a buck?

0:40.1

Yeah.

0:38.9

A woman has come forward accusing the pastor of Gateway Church Robert Morris

0:45.8

of sexual abuse. Beginning when she was just 12 years old. When the details came out about what

0:51.3

Robert did, I was angry. He's one of my spiritual fathers, right?

0:56.0

I only got two.

0:57.0

He's one of them.

0:58.0

What happened to Cindy was atrocious.

1:01.0

There is no excusing any of that.

1:03.0

And.

1:07.0

This is the deep end with La Cray.

1:14.9

All right, ladies and gentlemen, you've seen this man before.

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