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Tim still alcoholic surprisingly. After the break break the break did not cure my alcoholism.

So someone spoke to me during the break about, I talked about thin ice, that being on thin ice is an alcoholic,

I'm going to drink at some point,. I need to be on solid ground. And what does thin ice look like?

And what does solid ground look like? I know people who relaxed after many years of recovery who were perfectly competent at living, good relations with people, managed

money very well, showed up at work, as Bob B says, worked while they were at work, that's an acquired skill.

Things going very, very well, and yet the little worm worms its way in and they drink again.

And in my first, in my first year, as I said earlier, I'm not going to go into the mental illness that I had because it's not ready to place. I just want to signal that I was mentally ill and in my first year I was I was not going to suddenly become cheerful

and optimistic and happy go lucky and you know rubbing along well with people I had an awful lot to learn about how to live so I wasn't

doing well in my first year in many ways in some ways I was doing better than I was when I was drinking.

So being on thin ice or being on solid ground,

I don't think it's got anything to do with how well you're doing

as a person and as a recovering person.

I think it's got...

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