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You know, what we're seeing on the ground is Russia trying to append this rules-based international order

that generations of Americans have fought to deliver into sustain.

I think sometimes outside of Washington it's hard for people to appreciate the consequences of what we're seeing on the ground in Ukraine.

And that's why the United States and our Western partners and allies are so invested in ensuring that this results in strategic failure for Putin.

I really think, Michael, that history will reflect that the work theme-tell community did will be right up there along with, you know, uncovering

ballistic missiles in Cuba in 1962 and finding bin Laden in 2011.

I think this will be one of the third-grade achievements for the Intel community.

Brett Holmgren is the Assistant Secretary for Intelligence and Research at the Department of State.

Prior to that, Brett served in several national security-related department and agencies, including CIA.

Brett joins us today to talk about the key national security issues facing the nation.

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