TONIGHT: The show ranges from the sluggish battlefront in Donbas to the mob looting in Argentina, from the Moscow-confirmed death of Y. Prigozhin to the two year remembrance of the ISIS bombing in Kabul during the ISAF exit; from the joint US-Philippine e
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 29 August 2023
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TONIGHT: The show ranges from the sluggish battlefront in Donbas to the mob looting in Argentina, from the Moscow-confirmed death of Y. Prigozhin to the two year remembrance of the ISIS bombing in Kabul during the ISAF exit; from the joint US-Philippine exerciss in the South China Sea (how to retake an island occupied by invaders) to fraught campoaigning in Ecuador with the shadow of the recents assassinations.
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| 0:00.0 | Good evening. This is John Bacheler. The show begins tonight with my colleague Katrina |
| 0:05.0 | Venonhovel in the nation who's written a 1,500 word essay. On Pagotian, he |
| 0:10.6 | have Gennie Pagotian, the now confirmed by Moscow deceased leader of the so-called |
| 0:17.0 | Wagner Group. I learned from Katrina that the Wagner Group, a private military |
| 0:22.8 | company, it was not unique or is not unique depending on its status. In any fashion |
| 0:29.3 | in Russia, many of the oligarchs, perhaps all of them, have their own private |
| 0:34.1 | armies. Some of them are used in the similar fashion that the Wagner Group is |
| 0:40.1 | with deniability for the Kremlin. The Wagner Group is a gangland organization. It |
| 0:46.9 | robbed, it trafficked, it murdered, it did for hire in Africa the worst of the |
| 0:53.9 | worst. Gennie Pagotian was a gangster, a mob boss, that's his conduct. Yet he worked |
| 1:03.5 | comfortably alongside the other leaders in the Kremlin, Gideon Rockland of the |
| 1:09.9 | financial times, the foreign correspondent. As an essay in these last hours, comparing |
| 1:16.9 | the Kremlin's under Vladimir Putin to a mafia gang, a mafia state in which |
| 1:24.3 | everyone is beholden to everyone else for criminality at the same time. They |
| 1:30.1 | steal from each other, or they attempt to. And Putin is the Don who holds it all |
| 1:36.1 | together as a supervisor, as a presider, not as the absolute dictator the way |
| 1:41.4 | Stalin was. In fact, Putin also maintains order as best he can given the loose |
| 1:50.4 | knit organizations around him. These are private armies along with the state |
| 1:55.6 | security apparatus, which is itself a large private army. We then go on to |
| 2:01.6 | discuss other matters in the future. There are many things we don't know about |
| 2:06.6 | how the Wagner Group was used and how it's being used now and what the plans are |
| 2:11.1 | for. Also tonight, a discussion with Afrafik of globally news that the army in |
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