Tom Shroder - Acid Test: LSD, Ecstasy, and the Power to Heal
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 23 September 2016
⏱️ 58 minutes
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- Tom's interesting connection to Rick Doblin
- The history of Rick's rise to influence
- The story of the Mithoefers transitioning from emergency medicine and sailing to Holotropic Breathwork and MDMA research
- The book and this interview also follow the story of a US Marine who came home with treatment resistant PTSD and was then treated by the Mithoefers with MDMA as part of their research.
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| 0:00.0 | Tom Schroeder, welcome to the show. Hey, it's my pleasure. So, Tom, you're the author of the |
| 0:05.6 | wonderful book, Acid Test, has longer title than that. LSD, X-C, and the Power to Heal. It is |
| 0:15.0 | whirlwind of a book. A friend actually told me about it who has no interest in the field really and said it |
| 0:22.8 | was on some, I think it was like a top 50 books of all time list or something. I said, well, |
| 0:28.6 | that's right up my alley. So I'll, uh, I'll go ahead and, you know, pop 20 bucks down. And, uh, |
| 0:34.9 | I loved it so much that I reached out right away before I was even finished to |
| 0:39.2 | interview you here. I thought it did a really good job giving a general overview of the history |
| 0:44.2 | and like some really cool stories that that weren't necessarily part of many other books. You |
| 0:51.0 | had a couple gems in there that I hadn't really heard before and was |
| 0:55.9 | really grateful for it. And then it tied into this narrative of a Marine that was able to heal |
| 1:02.3 | a bunch from MDMA psychotherapy. Um, with the, is with the Griffiths or with the Mithoffers? |
| 1:09.6 | Midhoffers. Cool. They, um, they're actually good friends with the Griffiths or with the Mitthoeffers? Midhoffers. Cool. |
| 1:17.4 | They, um, they're actually good friends with the people Kyle and I studied, uh, breathwork with. |
| 1:18.6 | Um, they actually did the training together, I think, which is pretty cool. |
| 1:23.0 | Yeah, they were using the MDMA and, this was the first clinical trial to try to use it for PTSD, |
| 1:37.5 | combat-related PTSD. |
| 1:40.8 | Yeah, that's interesting. |
| 1:41.9 | So how did you get kind of involved in this whole world? Like, |
| 1:46.4 | you must have got interested in. I mean, it's actually a pretty crazy story because it goes |
| 1:53.3 | all the way back to when I was like 20 years old. I was a student journalist at the University of Florida, and I was home on |
| 2:07.2 | spring break, I think, and I either heard or saw a little blur in the newspaper that there |
| 2:16.1 | was this hippie building this sort of magnificent cedar and stone blurb in the newspaper that there was this like hippie building this sort of |
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