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The Good Fight

Timothy Garton Ash on Europe’s Political Fragmentation

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2026

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Timothy Garton Ash discuss how Britain’s shift toward populism reflects broader European trends. Timothy Garton Ash is the author of Homelands: A Personal History of Europe and writes the newsletter History of the Present. His upcoming book, Europe in 7½ Chapters, will be published in October 2026. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Timothy Garton Ash discuss the crisis of Labour and rise of Reform, why Europeans are struggling to adapt to a new political, cultural, and technological age, and the future of the war in Ukraine. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠this link on your phone⁠. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠Spotify⁠ | ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Google⁠ X: ⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠ & ⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠ YouTube: ⁠Yascha Mounk⁠, ⁠Persuasion⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right, home from work, walk the dog, kids are back.

0:05.0

Mom!

0:06.0

Up the stairs for something.

0:08.0

Ugh, back down, no idea what I went up for.

0:12.0

Mom, what's for dinner?

0:14.0

Chop, sizzle, done.

0:17.0

Hello Fresh can't slow life down, but it makes bringing everyone together around the table a whole lot easier.

0:23.4

So its phones down, forks up.

0:25.5

Hello Fresh. Bring back dinner time.

0:29.8

Welcome to Britain of a very typically European country.

0:34.2

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:43.8

Thank you. And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk. Magazines and publications sometimes have sidelines in earning money by organizing cruises for which they get some of their most distinguished contributors to serve as tour guides

0:56.1

as you float for the Mediterranean. We decided to offer something like that free of charge for you

1:02.1

today. We are going to go on a tour of Europe from the northwestern end of the United Kingdom

1:08.2

towards the southeast with Hungary and Ukraine.

1:13.4

And of course, the most distinguished possible tour guide of Europe's history

1:18.6

and its contemporary political scene is Timothy Garten Ash.

1:23.2

Timothy is the Professor of European Studies Emeritus at the University of Oxford and a senior

1:28.2

fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He is also the author among many books

1:34.9

of the forthcoming Europe in seven and a half chapters, the shortest introduction to the

1:40.4

world's oldest and newest continent. He promises that it's less than 40,000 words.

1:45.5

So I'm excited about that book which will be out in the fall.

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