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And Kristen Bert

Oh Kristen's got the wrong mic selected

Way to go Kristen

You're a disaster

Broken once again

We can't hear you

We can hear you but not very well

It's on your laptop mic I can I can almost guarantee it. I'm all set up correctly. You're a disaster. I will disappear and come on back. Okay. It'll be a stream here. Well, I can read the promo while you're gone. That'll be good. Sure you can Ladies and gentlemen, Kristen Bird Entertainment News, brought you by North American Banking Company. Go to NABanko.com to learn more. Member FDIC Equal Housing Lender. So that's good. So what's going on here? Oh, Jesse the Shrinks on today, huh? Yep. Excellent.

Oh, have you reached out to Gelfand to have him on again?

I'm probably going to invite him to the thing next week, if he can make it.

Yeah, but I mean, I thought we talked about having him on once a week.

I didn't know about once a week.

Well, is there a spot for him? Nope. quite a while oh and there goes mom mom's got

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