Hello and welcome to the Tom Bernard podcast, Sands Tom and Catherine.

But I'm here, Andy Bram Bernard, along with Michael Bryant.

And Bill Mandiata in for Kristen Berndt.

Yeah, so we've got an unusual crew today.

Yeah, Kristen couldn't make, Kristen is, you said she's shooting an ad?

She's shooting a commercial.

Ah, pretty fancy.

What kind of commercial?

I can't quite say she's got an NDA with it.

She said, you can't say the commercial, but you can say she's

on a commercial. It was an early call, so she said, government work. So I assume it's a point

they're going to let people know who the commercial. I would assume so. That's kind of the whole

point. Otherwise, it's, you know, you should a commercial never release it, although that's

what they've been doing lately in Hollywood sometimes. sometimes you know it's been happening much more and more over the years that

people are kind of tight-lipped about what's got what they're doing until the company wants to

release it so controlling the narrative yeah they sure are well i mean Well, I mean, I don't know.

In the age of the internet, I guess that makes sense.

I also remember a story about, I think it was, which is the one where Luke finds out that

Vader's his father?

Is that Empire?

That is the second one.

The Empire Strikes Back.

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