Hello, I'm Fern Cotton and this is Happy Place, the show that delves deep into creative

mind so we can all learn from their ideas. Today I'm thrilled to say I'm chatting to Tim

Minchin. I think my self-esteem is some people are fine with it but I'm probably a bit

second-childy and a bit fragile and I, it's susceptible to that being observed thing could

really make my ego get funny I think it does to famous people but more than that when

Matilda became so successful critically it gave me permission to take myself seriously

I made hay out of self-deprecation that was honest but then I thought actually no

quite fucking good. Wow how to describe the marvelous Tim Minchin

almost impossible because he is a polymath to say the least he's a composer, a lyricist

a musician, a comedian, a producer, a director I could go on listening all the talents that

interestingly as you'll hear he hasn't always seen after spending his twenties playing

in bands, acting in plays and writing tongue in cheek poems he was commissioned by the Royal

Shakespeare Company to write the music and lyrics for a stage adaptation of role-diles Matilda

you may well have seen it in the West End I have I took my stepkids when they were small and we

all loved it now that musical has been made into a film I can't bloody wait to see this film

which we obviously talked about when Tim came round to mine recently but we also went off on

so many tangents so many tangents some of those tangents are the importance of a diagnosis for

neurodivergence allowing ourselves to change over time and you also have some really interesting

thoughts about why we shouldn't necessarily be seeking happiness. Hmm interesting.

Oh also before we made it to the studio Tim and I had been talking about

a new pizza oven that I've got that I'm excited about I'm super excited about this pizza oven

I want to make pizzas all through the winter in the garden with the kids like make our own dough

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