Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop.

I'm your host host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, creating your album art for free by employing an intern,

or else a scrappy upstart, creating your album art for free with the AI graphic designer mid-journey.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the last Friday of March, 2023, and I thank you for joining us. This week's show is

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If you'd like to hear some of my music live, in the coming weeks, you can check out my tour

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