Hi and welcome to the working songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

berating your PRO, for not figuring out a way to collect royalties from Shazam, or else, a scrappy upstart, trying desperately not to pay royalties for a riff you sampled.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the fourth Friday of March, 2023, and I thank you for joining us.

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