Counseling Fearful Children on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Bill Johnson, and you're listening to Truth in Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I'm delighted to have with me, Kelly Dian.

She's been married to Dan.

Many of you know, Dr. Dan Dian speaks at many of our CDT.

She's been married to him for 39 years.

They have three grown married children, three children in loves, and seven, almost eight grandchildren.

And Kelly practiced as a social worker after college and was trained in biblical counseling

in the early 2000s. She's been certified since 2013 and received her MABC in 2020.

She counsels with Dan at Faith Biblical Counseling Center at Faith Bible Church in Spokane, Washington,

working with women, children, and families to bring the gospel in God's truth to bear on the hardships that they face.

She teaches the Bible for Mom's Group at her church and speaks to women's groups,

and she recently published a children's book for children whose parents have divorced called James and his

weird mad. Kelly loves spending time with friends and family, cooking, gardening, and watercolor

and Kelly, I'm so delighted that you're here to talk with us today. It's good to be here.

This is a tough topic, especially when you're dealing with children sometimes who can't express

some of the struggles that they have.

But I want you to just start by describing,

why is counseling children important for us as biblical counselors to consider?

I have found in the last 10 to 15 years,

the demand for help for children has grown in a massive way. Early when I was trained,

we didn't really talk about counseling children. I'm not saying that it wasn't a need,

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