engaging your child's heart on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

Today on the podcast, I am delighted to have with me a frequent guest on the podcast, Dr. Sam Stevens,

is our director of training center certification.

And I just always love having a conversation. I think it's maybe a bit more helpful.

And today, I want to introduce you, if I can, to a new curriculum that we have. We are really

excited. This has been something that's been in the works for a

couple of years. Our new curriculum is devoted toward high school students, those who are in

Christian schools, even in public schools, or homeschooling. We've built a curriculum that's based

around the fundamentals of biblical counseling. Part of that has to do with wanting to give a biblical

perspective on things regarding the social sciences that your kids will encounter in school,

and we want to provide a biblical alternative to that so that people can understand the context

of what gets categorized often in secular psychological areas, and then challenge your

children to think biblically about these types of issues. But what I want to do first is I want

us to discuss the importance of this type of curriculum and your children engaging in these

types of ideas or these types of problems that they're going to face.

I find it interesting consistently that so many people ask these very difficult questions about

parenting. And listen, parenting is very difficult. Parenting is not easy. If you want to be

sanctified, become a parent. That's one of the ways that the Lord uses to challenge what we think we might have under control or it is difficult work. And so I don't want to minimize that fact. But the Bible has so much to say about the way in which we shepherd and engage the hearts of our children. One of the things I fear, Sam, however,

is that the way sometimes in which we approach these issues is sometimes we have a tendency

to want to, you know, oh, there's so much evil around. And there is, but we want to shelter

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