Three Moves Ahead 586: Industrialization and Snowballing w/ Bret Devereaux

Three Moves Ahead

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Strategy, Strategy Games, War, Games & Hobbies, War Games, Games, Video Games

4.8 • 532 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Len and Ian are joined once again by our official unofficial historical consultant, UNC Chapel Hill's Dr. Bret Devereaux, to discuss a couple of interrelated topics: Snowballing in strategy games and the process of industrialization. We take a wide-ranging trek through games and history that touches on different ways developers have tried to put checks on snowballing, what factors prevented real societies from hitting that exponential growth until the 1800s, and which games portray it best. There's also a lot of chat on our exploits in the recent 1.2 patch for Victoria 3, because of course there would be.

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0:00.0	Good evening. You're listening to Three Moves Ahead. I am Len. I am your host this week,
0:05.8	joined by our good friend Tap Taps, Ian Boudreau.
0:10.1	Hello, everybody.
0:11.3	And once again, our official unofficial historical consultant, UNC Chapel Hills, Dr. Brett Devereaux.
0:18.3	Hey, everybody.
0:20.1	And we've got kind of a combined theme episode today.
0:24.5	We're going to be talking about, for one thing,
0:28.1	the Industrial Revolution and Industrialization in strategy games,
0:32.0	somewhat inspired by the fact that I've been playing a lot of the Victoria 3,
0:36.3	1.2 patch.
0:38.2	I think, have all of us played it at this point?
0:41.0	I have.
0:41.7	Yeah.
0:42.2	At least some amount, yeah.
0:44.1	But also the concept of snowballing in strategy games, which is kind of interrelated,
0:48.9	because if you think about it, the industrialization or the Industrial Revolution
0:53.5	or Second Industrial revolution, as some
0:55.9	people call it, was sort of the most significant case of snowballing that happened in real
1:02.5	life, at least in terms of like human population and productivity. So I thought those topics
1:08.4	kind of go well together.
1:13.0	I think we'll start.
1:30.3	Brett, you mentioned you could talk a little bit to, in real life, what exactly are the barriers that prevent a sort of advanced urban society from quote unquote snowballing into sort of exponential population and productivity.
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