Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakeney.

Tonight, we welcome back, PC gamers, Evan Lottie.

Hey there, Rob.

And we're also joined once again by designer and writer Zolivir Nelson.

Hey, everyone.

And now college student, correct?

Yeah, newly inducted college student on top of my already unreasonable workload. It's exciting. It's fun. I haven't slept.

Yeah, it's... Now I'm just imagining a very like Rodney Dangerfield-esque,

like back to school, misadventure you're having on top of the rest of your,

on the top of the rest of your duties. Anyway, tonight, we are going deep undercover with Phantom Doctrine,

a Cold War espionage tactics game by Creative Forge Games.

And Evan, you and I were both reviewing this,

and we exchanged a couple texts,

and I said that I was having just a hellish time. Like, I, like, many, many days into my time with

this game, I was like, I don't know how I feel about this. Like, literally with a gun on my head,

I couldn't tell you like, did I like this? Was this good? And you, you told me, you were like, dude, it's going to take you, but it's going to take about 20 hours before you really know how you feel about this game.

So first, you were uncannily on the money with that prediction.

Like literally the moment where I was like, okay, I think I'm done here. I exited and it was like

19 hours on the steam time played clock. But second, so what is fandom doctrine and why is it so

hard to get a read on it?

Yeah.

This is a strange game to talk about, and I really grappled with it a lot in my review.

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