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Three Moves Ahead

Three Moves Ahead 429: Subterfuge

Three Moves Ahead

Idle Thumbs

Video Games, Games, War, War Games, Strategy, Games & Hobbies, Strategy Games

4.8532 Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2018

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Do you like submarines? Do you like being irrationally angry at your best friends? How about checking your phone at 2 AM? Subterfuge may be the relationship ender you've been looking for. Rob is joined by Kotaku's Heather Alexandra, PC Gamer's Philippa Warr, and freelance writer Nick Capozzoli to talk about Subterfuge, a game about being a jerk. Inspired by the long-form RTS gameplay of Neptune's Pride, Subterfuge is as much a game about relationships with other players as it is tactics. The panel discusses their emotional highs and lows when dealing with the hell that is other people, and you can hear the frustration as Rob demonstrates the most exaggerated sigh in the history of podcasting.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Good evening, you are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakene.

0:03.4

Join me tonight, we welcome Katakus, Heather Alexandra.

0:06.9

Hello.

0:07.9

We're also joined by PC gamers, Philippa War.

0:11.4

Hello.

0:12.5

And finally, we are joined once again by noted dirtbag, Nick Capizoli.

0:17.9

Wow.

0:19.2

Yeah, that's right.

0:20.9

As you might have just surmised, today we're talking about some subterfuge, the underwater

0:25.5

diplomacy game and friendship ruiner by Ron Carmel and Noel Lopez.

0:32.0

And I guess the easy way to describe subterfuge is it is a bit like the board game

0:36.4

diplomacy with the

0:37.7

dystopian exception that it runs on your phone in real time 24-7 and it never stops until everyone

0:46.0

is miserable. And even then it continues for a fair old while.

0:52.1

This is, yes, what are the boundaries of subterfuge?

0:55.2

When does the game stop?

0:57.1

Does it ever stop after you've started playing it?

0:59.5

These are all good questions.

1:03.4

So, Heather, you just played your first game of subterfuge recently, and you have an

1:10.4

undefeated record. I do. was very very lucky i don't so

1:15.1

here's my admission for this entire discussion i still don't completely understand all of the

1:20.2

rules of subterfuge because there's a lot of different things about like production and energy

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