Good evening, you are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I am your host, Rob Zakene.

Tonight I'm talking to Paradox designer Johan Anderson about the latest EU3 expansion,

Divine Wind, how Paradox approach expansions and their upcoming game, Sengoku.

Johan, thanks for joining me.

Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.

So before we get into Divine Wind and Paradox expansions,

I really wanted to ask about your favorite expansions.

What are some game expansions that exemplify what you want from an expansion?

And you're not allowed to name anything by Paradox.

Okay, that's a... Well, considering I just...

Five minutes before this call,

I just finished playing my weekly raid night in World of Warcraft.

I must probably say that they do pretty good expansions.

But, yeah, I also like the old civilization for Civ 4.

I thought the conquest was a brilliant expansion.

Played the World was also, but I don't remember if that was Civ 3 or Civ 4, but it was also an awesome expansion.

But I kind of like when there are multiple things in the expansion.

I don't find having just new units, new maps.

That doesn't do it for me. I want like new mechanics. That's the important thing.

Okay, so what is it about, um, let's take those expansions you named, World Warcraft and the Civilization for expansions.

So what did they do that, what do they do that stands out to you as making them really special

expansions? Well, I guess, first of all it makes that the game

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