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I don't know if you ever have a situation in your life where you want to have a conversation

with someone but it's not an easy conversation maybe it's your partner could be

a parent child maybe someone at, but there's a conversation that kind of needs to be had,

but it's just difficult to kind of get into it.

And very often in these situations, one person has one opinion perhaps we have another

opinion and so part of our fear or trepidation is knowing that we're not

necessarily going to agree because if we necessarily going to agree.

Because if we're going to agree with the person, then there's no real fear, right?

We have no hesitation at beginning those conversations.

And I was chatting to a friend the other day, and he was chatting with his partner about the

potential of moving to a different place, different city, maybe even different country.

And anyway they were having this conversation I should point out by the way as my

friends always do to me this isn't my friend like this was me at home and my wife we

weren't having this conversation this actually was my friend anyway he was at home having this conversation.

He said it was really difficult to navigate

because he had a very strong feeling

and a very strong opinion about it.

And he couldn't really imagine changing that opinion.

Equally he knew that his partner that they had a very strong opinion.

So how do you go into a conversation like that with a genuine sense of

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