You are listening to the Roberta Glass True Crime Report, putting the true back in true crime.

From New York City, Roberta Glass is now on the record.

I'm here with Jane from the National Organization of Victims of Juvenile Murderers,

and you said that you wanted to talk to me right away. What's going on?

Oh, wow. There's so much stuff going on right now, and we have a lot of injustices to fight.

So I think that we were going to start by talking about New Mexico Senate Bill 247.

What is that bill?

For people to watch the last episode, I discussed this massive well-funded movement to end life without parole for juveniles.

And just so everyone knows, Elwap is the short way of saying life without parole.

And so this bill is part of that movement. The first

version of the bill would have mandated that juvenile offenders be entitled to parole hearings

after no more than 10 years of incarceration, as a matter what you do, if you murder 10 people,

20 people, if you rape 10 people, you would be entitled to parole hearings after only 10 years.

And so, but after the victims expressed a lot of outrage about that, they bumped it up to 15 years.

Another thing the bill does is that after that 15 years has passed, the assailants would be entitled

to parole hearings every two years. And so we have several concerns of this bill.

First of all, I think that the 15 years is too light for some crimes. You know, our justice

system is based on the idea that the punishment should fit the crime. You know, the punishment

and offender gets should be proportionate to the crime they committed. But 15 years is just

not proportionate to some crimes. I mean,

that's only a decade and a half. And it's too lenient for some of these evil crimes that we see.

And especially when we have multiple victims. And for just one example, there's a man named,

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