Head Space Studio.

Hey everyone, it's Rosie here.

Welcome to Radio Headspace and to Sunday.

So I'm actually going to be doing something pretty different today.

I'm going to be chatting with someone I've been looking forward to meeting for a very long time.

Charles DuHigg. Charles is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, journalist,

and all-around incredible human being.

He's worked for the New York Times, maybe you've heard of it,

and is also the author of several super fascinating books,

including The Power of Habit, Smarter, Faster, Better, and his latest book, Super Communicators.

There's a lot in here, but it's about the art of communication, how it works, who does it

best, and most of all all how to improve it?

I think this is essential for us at work, home, and just life in general.

So yeah, Charles, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having me. So I've been reading your book and I have to say that I was so fascinated by everything that you talked about in the book but I know that the thing that

prompted you to write this was the communication or lack thereof you were having with

your wife right right? Yeah.

I'm curious for you, even after you've done this work and this research, what your communication

is like with your partner now.

Well, it's a lot better now, right? And so the thing that you're referring. with your I'm a professional communicator theoretically.

And my wife and I have been married for 20 years.

And we got into this pattern where I would come home from work

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