Think Twice: Original Sin with Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson

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🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Coming off the long weekend, an early release of this week's episode: The first 2024 presidential debate was a turning point in President Biden’s candidacy. In this episode, moderator-in-chief John Donvan and chief content officer Lia Matthow sit down with CNN anchor Jake Tapper and Axios’s Alex Thompson to discuss the book that has Washington buzzing: “Original Sin: President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again.” They discuss what transpired before, during, and after that debate and what it might mean for the future of journalism, the Democratic party, and politics overall. Our Guests: Jake Tapper, News Anchor; Host of CNN's "The Lead" Alex Thompson, National Political Correspondent at Axios Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan & Lia Matthow, Open to Debate's Chief Content officer, moderate Visit OpentoDebate.org to watch more insightful debates. Subscribe to our newsletter to stay informed on our curated weekly debates, dynamic live events, and educational initiatives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:31.5	This is Open to Debate. I'm John Donvan. Hi, everybody. And today I am pleased to be joined
0:35.9	by somebody I work with closely here at Open a Debate,
0:38.1	who is often behind the scenes making these debates happen. Leah Mathout, Leah, hi. Welcome to the desk.
0:43.6	Hey, John. So nice to be joining you on the other side of the camera. So I want to explain to people very
0:48.9	briefly your role here. You are our chief of content, which means you are the person who really
0:53.7	pulls all of these debates together along with the team that you lead. You are our chief of content, which means you are the person who really pulls all of these
0:54.5	debates together along with the team that you lead. You create the topics. You come up with
0:59.5	the language. You then find debaters who are willing actually, though they disagree with each other,
1:04.4	to sit down with one another at the same place and have a civil, we hope, conversation or at least
1:10.0	a civil argument. Well, as you mentioned,
1:12.0	it's a team sport and it's an incredibly talented team that we work with here. What we do every week
1:18.2	is we really have the pleasure of addressing a single topic, a really deep dive, whether it's
1:24.6	tariffs, AI governance, foreign policy debates. All of these questions
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