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beat. Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, November 20th,

2023 and I'm the host of the show Dr. Kara Santa Maria and for those living in the United States and my American friends abroad

I just want to wish you all a happy Thanksgiving this week and I hope that you are spending it surrounded by people that you love or

alone if that's your thing if that's your choice that's an empowered choice and I'm with you on it.

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All right, let's dive into this week's episode.

So I have the opportunity to sit down with Dr C. Renee James to talk about her new book, Things that

go Bump in the Universe, how astronomers decode cosmic chaos. Renee is actually a decode Cosmic Chaos Chaos.

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